Friday, July 1, 2016

Rasp 1912 Winnipeg Immigration Year to 1919


​Here is a timeline for the Rasp family: ​this might be accurate:
.
1879: birth of Peter Sr
1882: birth of Marie Charlotte Vanderbyl
1903-03-11: wedding: Peter, Marie
1903: birth to twins: Helena, Hendrina
1905: birth to Martina
1906-04-11: birth to Peter Marinus Rasp
1912: immigration to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
1916: Canada Census verified these dates it seems
1918 October: Peter Sr immigrated to the USA
1919 May: the rest of the family immigrated to Alameda, California

.
.

Rasp Family:
1912: Immigration: Netherlands to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.
1918 October: Peter Sr. immigration to the United States
1919 May: immigration of the rest of the Rasp family to Alameda
.
.
Address:
423 Trent Avenue (township); 12 Springfield (district number), T-21939 affiliated film number, Winnipeg (maybe), Manitoba, Canada, in, at, around 1912 and/or/to 1919, it seems.
.
Canada Census, 1916
Family Number 1112
Line Number 14
Digital Folder Number 004363968
Image Number 01031

.

Peter Rasp

Canada Census, 1916
Name Peter Rasp
Event Type Census
Event Date 1916
Event Place Manitoba, Canada
Gender Male
Age 10
Marital Status Single
Ethnicity Dutch
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birthplace Holland
Birth Year (Estimated) 1906
Immigration Year 1912
Township 423 Trent Av
Province Manitoba
District Number 12 Springfield
Sub-District Number 22
Page 95
Affiliate Film Number T-21939
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Peter Rasp Self M 37y Holland
Marie Rasp Wife F 34y Holland
Peter Rasp Son M 10y Holland
William Rasp Son M 7y Holland
Helena Rasp Daughter F 13y Holland
Hendrina Rasp Daughter F 13y Holland
Martina Rasp Daughter F 11y Holland
Citing this Record
"Canada Census, 1916," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMPV-Y7N : 5 November 2014), Peter Rasp in household of Peter Rasp, Manitoba, Canada; citing p. 95, line 14; Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,434,954.
.







.



Here is a record of the immigration the Rasp family in 1912 and/or 1916 and/or 1918 and/or 1919 from Amsterdam Netherlands to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and later to Alameda around 1920.


Peter 1911 or 1918 in Canada?

When did Peter Sr and Jr and the rest of our Rasp paternal grandpa, great grandpa, & others go from their birthplaces of Amsterdam, Netherlands, to Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada?
.
The following may not be my great paternal grandpa Peter Rasp but somebody else:
I'm Joey Arnold Oatmeal:
.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-VL6Z
.
Canada Census, 1911
District Winnipeg
Household ID 193
Line Number 15
GS Film Number 002417673
Digital Folder Number 007526729
Image Number 00441
 .

Peter Rasp

Canada Census, 1911
Name Peter Rasp
Event Type Census
Event Date 1911
Event Place Winnipeg Sub-Districts 75-91, Manitoba, Canada
Gender Male
Age (Estimated) 38
Marital Status Married
Relationship to Head of Household Lodger
Birth Date Aug 1873
Birthplace Holland
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Harry Klasen Head M 33 Holland
Matina Klasen Wife F 33 Holland
Harry Klasen Son M 5 Manitoba
Class Klasen Brother M 35 Holland
Frank Klasen Brother M 37 Holland
Peter Rasp Lodger M 38 Holland
William Kooi Lodger M 24 Holland
Citing this Record
"Recensement du Canada de 1911," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-VL6Z : 2 March 2015), Peter Rasp in entry for Harry Klasen, 1911; citing Census, Winnipeg Sub-Districts 75-91, Manitoba, Canada, Library and Archives of Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,417,673.






















Charlotte or Cornelia?

Who did Peter Rasp Sr marry? I am seeing two different answers on websites sometimes. A birth certificate for Peter Jr or for his siblings could help. U.S. Census records could help answer this question.
.
QUESTION: Peter SR married who?
A. Maria Cornelia Van Der Bijl, 1880 - 1980
B. Marie Charlotte Vanderbyl, 1881
.
Based on what I generally see on websites, I think the answer is the second one, Letter B.
.
I think Peter married Marie Charlotte Vanderbyl.
Maria Cornelia Vanderbijl could be unrelated.
.
1940 U.S. Census said Marie was 59, therefore born 1881.
.


Peter SR 1918 1919 Winnipeg

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XP14-CJ3

Peter Rasp

United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States
Name Peter Rasp
Arrival Date Oct 1918
Arrival Port Winnipeg, Manitoba,
Age 39
Birth Year (Estimated) 1879
Gender Male
Race Dutch

.
United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956
Affiliate Publication Title Manifests of Passengers Arriving in the St. Albans, VT, District through Canadian Pacific and Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954
Affiliate Publication Number M1464
Affiliate Film Number 357






Citing this Record
"United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XP14-CJ3 : 27 November 2014), Peter Rasp, Oct 1918; from "Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2010); citing Ship , arrival port Winnipeg, Manitoba,, line 20, NARA microfilm publication M1464, roll 357, NARA record group 85, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.





















Peter 1919 Winnipeg Manitoba

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLMP-14W



United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956
Affiliate Publication Title Manifests of Passengers Arriving in the St. Albans, VT, District through Canadian Pacific and Atlantic Ports, 1895-1954
Affiliate Publication Number M1464
Affiliate Film Number 369

.

Peter Marinus Rasp

United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States
Name Peter Marinus Rasp
Arrival Date May 1919
Arrival Port Winnipeg, Manitoba,
Age 10
Birth Year (Estimated) 1909
Birthplace Amsterdam,
Birth Country Holland
Gender Male
Race Dutch
Citing this Record
"United States Border Crossings from Canada to United States, 1895-1956," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XLMP-14W : 27 November 2014), Peter Marinus Rasp, May 1919; from "Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1954," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2010); citing Ship , arrival port Winnipeg, Manitoba,, line 6, NARA microfilm publication M1464, roll 369, NARA record group 85, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.
 
 
 
 
.
 
 
 
















Peter Marinus Rasp 1920 Census

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH3H-3V3
.
My dad's dad: Peter Marinus Rasp:
1907 or 1906 - 1953: lived to the age of 46 or 47
.


United States Census, 1920
District ED 126
Sheet Number and Letter 13B
Line Number 72
Affiliate Name The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number T625
Affiliate Film Number 90
GS Film Number 1820090
Digital Folder Number 004964272
Image Number 01170



Peter M Rasp

United States Census, 1920
Name Peter M Rasp
Event Type Census
Event Date 1920
Event Place Oakland, Alameda, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 13
Marital Status Single
Race White
Race (Original) White
Can Read Yes
Can Write Yes
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1907
Birthplace Holland
Father's Birthplace Holland
Mother's Birthplace Holland
Sheet Letter B
Sheet Number 13
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Peter Rasp Head M 40 Holland
Marie C Rasp Wife F 39 Holland
Helena M Rasp Daughter F 16 Holland
Hendrina A Rasp Daughter F 16 Holland
Martina J Rasp Daughter F 14 Holland
Peter M Rasp Son M 13 Holland
William J Rasp Son M 11 Holland
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH3H-3V3 : 14 December 2015), Peter M Rasp in household of Peter Rasp, Oakland, Alameda, California, United States; citing sheet 13B, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 1,820,090.
























































Peter Rasp 1940 US Census:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9DQ-MHV
United States Census, 1940
District 38-464
Family Number 142
Sheet Number and Letter 4B
Line Number 72
Affiliate Publication Number T627
Affiliate Film Number 316
Digital Folder Number 005456397
Image Number 00539


Peter Rasp

United States Census, 1940
Name Peter Rasp
Event Type Census
Event Date 1940
Event Place Assembly District 26, San Francisco, San Francisco City, San Francisco, California, United States
Gender Male
Age 34
Race (Original) White
Race White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original) Son
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birthplace Holland
Birth Year (Estimated) 1906
Last Place of Residence San Francisco
Household
Role
Gender
Age
Birthplace
Marie Rasp Head F 59 Holland
Helen Curl Daughter F 36 Holland
Dorothy Schaffer Granddaughter F 13 California
Peter Rasp Son M 34 Holland
Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9DQ-MHV : 17 May 2014), Peter Rasp in household of Marie Rasp, Assembly District 26, San Francisco, San Francisco City, San Francisco, California, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 38-464, sheet 4B, family 142, NARA digital publication T627 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012), roll 316.